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Just to clarify, until recently you were under the impression that the political advocacy organization you donated to had no political opinions of their own?

GP is complaining about a shift from one set of positions to a different set.

GP (me) is not complaining about shifting positions. EFF was fairly neutral for the prior two decades, and even though I did not agree with everything they did, I thought they were worthy of support. Last year, they began filing some lawsuits without much research or diligence, and without much of a legal basis. I waited a while and watched, and I saw them becoming more and more partisan.

I liked it when they were more about defending rights and less about attacking the "right."


the EFF didn't move from political neutral. The right just moved more right.

> not complaining about shifting positions

> EFF has changed

> EFF was fairly neutral ... Last year, they began ... I saw them becoming more and more partisan

I mean, I read that as a shift.


Read it as you wish. I would have been just as displeased if they had swung "right" instead of "left."

I didn't comment on directionality, just that you were objecting to a change (synonymously, a shift).

I did not see it as a "shift", because IMHO they were non-partisan before, and now they've changed. It's not moving the line, it's creating a line.

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You think the EFF was not political before 2024?

TDS/EDS don't exist, it's called not liking fascists and not supporting them any more than you have to because they directly oppose your goals

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ad hominem. but whatever, lets suppose trump and elon aren't fascists. what exactly do fascists do?

Oppression of minorities? Check

Capitalism as the main apparatus of the state? Check

Imprisoning dissenting voices? Check

Creating lists of people to get rid of? Check

Authoritarianism? Double check

Creating an out group and scapegoating it as an "enemy from within" Check

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it doesn't have to scream it's a duck and sieg heil to be sure it's probably a duck or at least not a swan


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>What dissenting voices are being imprisoned?

There have been a lot of political prosecutions of people who disagree. James Comey, Leticia James, John Bolton, Mark Kelly. Luckily, grand juries and judges have prevented them from getting convictions. But dragging them through the legal process is punishment enough. The administration's incompetence at imprisoning political opponents isn't a reason to forgive them.

ICE has targeted protestors, and Rubio made it clear the targeting was intentional policy.

If we look beyond "imprisonment" and include "illegally or unfairly punish dissenting voices to keep them from having a voice," there are a lot more victims. Jimmy Kimmel, reporters at the Pentagon, openly supporting an ally's takeover of Warner Brothers to control CNN.


>What dissenting voices are being imprisoned?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_government_attacks...

>what the fuck does "Capitalism as the main apparatus of the state"

It means the states de-facto purpose is to funnel wealth into the hands of a few people (trump and elon included)

>What minorities are being oppressed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_transgender_peo...

>what list of people exist to get rid of

ICE presumably has several


Unironically yes, save the children by not letting them be on smartphones all day during school.


Just pull over if you have things to text that can’t wait


Actually just wait. Pulling over on a busy road creates its own hazards.


If tariffs are so good, they should be happy that Amazon is doing free advertising of them on the Trump administration’s behalf. Why do they seem upset that people would know about the tariffs they’re so proud of? Such a mystery


Glad to see the party of “cut funding to cancer research to stop waste & fraud” is also the same party of “actually convicted acts of fraud should be legal”.


Libro.fm rules, been using it for years now. Same price as Amazon, has a vast majority of the books I've been interested in, and you get to pick a local bookstore to support and some portion of your subscription goes to them. Since we're on HN, you can actually download the audio files from Libro.fm as an officially-supported feature also for backups.

https://libro.fm/


But, as also seen with DOGE, they’re careless and refuse to do even cursory research on anything beyond the first-order effects of their actions which, to me at least, seems like a terrible set of traits for being in charge of weaponry.


Musk behaved the EXACT same way when he took over Twitter and wanted to move out of one of the 3 main data centers they used. Actual experts told him it would take a year so he instead impulsively hires basic movers to rip the servers out and was surprised at how many things this broke. He said "I didn't realize how many places that data center was hardcoded". Except people absolutely told him that.


This staffer just got rehired btw because being publicly super racist 2 months ago is not a dealbreaker to Elon Musk's organization.

https://bsky.app/profile/fritschner.bsky.social/post/3lhmhrw...


To be clear, there are two different staffers. The one in your link resigned yesterday and (apparently) may be coming back. The linked article is about another one.

And then there's this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42976761


Oh yes, you're correct actually. The one I linked about was mentioned at the end of the article but the article makes clear that Elon Musk actually did hire multiple people with explicitly racist ties because they are not dealbreakers to him.


lol I don’t want the bigots and people sending death threats to exist, I’ll stand on a soapbox and say that


Your guess is bigots. Care to provide more details. Racism or a broader bigot definition?


I’ll be honest, I have better things to do with my time then help you narrow down your personal definition of bigot. Sorry.


I haven't heard that word since the 70s. It's outdate like 'to the moon Alice'. What were you trying to convey with that word?


What problem do you think they’re causing that would warrant death threats?


What do I think someone could say over different platforms over a long time period of time that would get multiple death threats? I have no idea but would love for original poster to share more details.


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