Yes, unfortunately that seems to be the world we live in.

The parent poster is not advocating for profits over ethics - just pointing out the reality for companies like Apple etc

Companies don't have to be ethical, they just have to be legal.

This is the sort of reasoning that got us into all this crap in the first place, and it certainly won't get us out of it.

Not saying its good but these are the facts. Companies try to maximise profit within the boundaries of the law.

So just like everyone else?

We hold people to certain standards and can do the same for companies.

I don't agree with Apple's move here either just explaining that they are not doing anything illegal no matter how much we may not like it. Of course we can choose not to buy their products but do you think the average person considers it before they make a decision on their next phone?

Precisely. I just have a problem with them being hypocrite.