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Nailed for being the only guy stupid enough to write instant messages bragging about misleading the FAA.

As a longtime corporate grunt, I can guess exactly how management leaned on him. He should have left and let the scumbags find another patsy to do their dirty work.



Exactly. There's a reason when you deal with people senior enough in any big organization that everything is verbal...


“Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink, never wink if you can do nothing.”


It reminds me of Lenin signing lists of people to be executed and when asked later about it, saying that his signature was just to show he had read the list not to approve of executions.


What's this from?


It seems to be a quote, or a variation on a quote, from Martin Lomasney:

> Lomasney once advised a young follower, "Don't write when you can talk; don't talk when you can nod your head."[1]

The West End Museum[2] attributes the longer quote to him.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lomasney referencing https://www.jstor.org/stable/361565

[2] https://thewestendmuseum.org/the-life-legend-and-lessons-of-...


I do not know if these discussions happened in WA, but WA had one party consent audio recording laws instead of all party consent, then executives would be more wary of instructing underlings to do something illegal.


sure but thats like 1 in 1000

but putting stuff in text/IM/email is instantly discovered if anything ever goes to trial and there is electronic discovery


Unless your corporate retention policy is only 6 months. I setup an archive to keep important emails around only to find out our retention policy had been applied to it.

Once an org gets burned by discovery in a lawsuit they go to great lengths to ensure it will never happen again.


I suspect the regulatory environment in aviation is the strictest any developer faces.


laughes in healthcare


Not sure about your healthcare, but the healthcare company I work for is full of ex-aviation engineers who are happy to comply with our regulatory requirements.


I have something like 8 years worth of free credit monitoring from all of the healthcare providers who got breached lost my family's information.


As long as they don’t see who is printing out their emails, still possible to CYA - but it does draw a giant target on ones back if you’re obvious about it.


Are there any downsides to this?


Loss of institutional memory encoded in the destroyed records.


In a broad sense, not specifically related to not retaining data as a legal protection, institutional memory is somewhat overrated because of how much low-value content is retained and how it was a snapshot of how a different world was understood.


None that I have been able to come up with. Two or more party consent audio recording laws only serve to provide people with power more protection.


Not sure I agree. Look at all these court cases producing juicy emails from tech giants.


Many of those juicy emails are from before the past few years' wave of tech lawsuits.

At least at the entry level, I think a lot of the "don't say the word 'competition'" training started as a reaction to relatively recent legal tangles - it wouldn't be surprising if people at the senior level also have gotten more careful about how they communicate.


I remember getting the ‘be careful how you communicate’ training at a FAANG over a decade ago, it’s well known CYA every place I’ve been at.

That said, people get complacent and then wham - front page of the New York Times saying something dumb.


And there is a reason why lawyers exist.


Just to nitpick, you probably mean 'oral'


Wow! TIL! I always use 'verbal' when I actually mean 'oral'.


According to the Oxford English Dictionary:

Verbal: oral, spoken rather than written.

You’ve been using verbal correctly.


correct


Remember, the "I" in "IM" stands for "incriminating".


And the 'e' in 'email' stands for 'evidence'


I don't think Chief Technical Pilot is a corporate grunt. It is a management position.


But without a doubt there would still be (even more) pressure on him from his bosses in that CTP position.


Let's hope he sings like a bird.


The chief pilot is management.


Source?


https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/explo...

This source says text messages. Thought I saw instant messages somewhere else.


I’d consider SMS to be a form of IM.




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