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> Under what law?

NSO used Apple's services, thereby agreeing to U.S. jurisdiction. (It also deals in dollars and has customers in America.) If it ignores U.S. courts, it would be held in contempt at the very least. That enables the Feds to start freezing and confiscating assets, possibly even issuing arrest warrants. That happens domestically first and through treaties second.

Given how much bad blood NSO has generated for itself in D.C., it would be more surprising if this didn't get escalated to a diplomatic level.



There's no way it hasn't been escalated to a diplomatic level already, that's probably the biggest impediment to the suit doing anything. Both NSO's host country and client base get an incredible amount of protection from the state department.


This doesn't take into account recent events, e.g. the U.S. sanctioning NSO after their dealings in India and with American police departments was confirmed.

In any case, this is a civil suit in federal courts. Even if State wanted to intervene, it would have to do so through informal channels.


Their website is still up, posting news, hosted on AWS on one of the us-west AZs.

The US is going at them with less vigor than a whack-a-mole torrent site de jure.

> In any case, this is a civil suit in federal courts. Even if State wanted to intervene, it would have to do so through informal channels.

But didn't we just agree that the federal court system is pretty toothless here without the support of the state department?


The federal court could only ever do what a federal court could do which is levy sanctions or judgments against NSO property.


Against US based NSO property, practically speaking.


> US based NSO property, practically speaking

Nope. Not only does Israel have an extradition treaty with the U.S., their civil systems are quite tightly linked.

[1] https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/07-110-Isra...


Extradition has next to nothing to do with a civil EULA suit.


> Extradition has next to nothing to do with a civil EULA suit

The following has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread. If NSO blows off the EULA suit, they'll be held in contempt of court. That tends to escalate into the type of thing for which one can be extradited.


They wont be held in contempt, the court will decide the case in their default. That's what happens when you don't appear for a civil lawsuit.


You say that tends to happen, but I can't seem to find a single case where civil no show and non payment escalated to criminal foreign extradition. Do you have any examples of this?


"That enables the Feds to start freezing and confiscating assets, possibly even issuing arrest warrants. That happens domestically first and through treaties second."

It's a civil case.


> It's a civil case

If you perjure yourself in a civil case, you've committed a crime. Contempt of court is, similarly, a (process) crime.


It's not a crime to simply not show up. Default judgement that they won't ever pay, and everyone moves on with their lives.


They will have assets in the US that can be attached


How? They're on the entity list.




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