If that were true then you'd be advocating for trains and trams, not trucks, buses, or cars. Trains and trams are more energy efficient than automobiles.
> also on team 'lets not have the government continue to give money to automotive companies to develop hydrogen technology'
But you presumably still want government handouts for BEV and EV charger development.
> If that were true then you'd be advocating for trains and trams, not trucks, buses, or cars.
I am literally doing that. I love trains and public transport. I'm a huge advocate of increase use in local cargo trains. I am even a fan of cargo trams. In the city where I work Zurich they have started using cargo trams for things like garbage and that's amazing.
I'm also a fan of electric trolley lines on highways for trucks rather then pure battery electric.
But we are not debating that right now, we are debating battery trucks verses hydrogen trucks.
> But you presumably still want government handouts for BEV and EV charger development.
Not really actually. I much much prefer that investment going into general urbanism including public personal and cargo transport. Given 75k cars a government handout is insane policy.
What I would support carbon tax and also toll booths for driving into cities.
> we are debating battery trucks verses hydrogen trucks
No, you're making your original mistake again. It's not battery trucks versus hydrogen trucks. The choice isn't BEV or FCEV, the choice is both BEV and FCEV.
I'm literally doing it in my life, not in this thread.
> No, you're making your original mistake again.
Technology is almost never 100% dominate, when we are debating 'VHS vs betamax' we don't say 'I don't think VHS won over beta-max because some people still use betamax'. Of course FCEV trucks will exists that's not a question really worth talking about, its trivial.
If we are having a quality discussion in terms of technology the debate is about witch of these technology will more fundamentally and systematically transform our society. If we are talking a "VHS vs betamax" the answer is clear and everybody in the world, other then you apparently, understand what we are talking about. And in this case, I have made and argument that battery electric will win the waste majority use cases.
And your response is to quibble with the way I'm formulating thing, even when you clearly know that I don't mean no FCEV truck will exist in the future, rather then making any real argument. Bye.
> even when you clearly know that I don't mean no FCEV truck will exist in the future
Uh huh. You've repeatedly claimed FCEVs are a "total failure" even though companies like Hyundai have been running them in Switzerland for a couple of years now:
You really are stickler for language with nothing useful to say. The goal of multi-billion $ companies when they make huge investment is not to have tiny market share and run trail programs.
If that were true then you'd be advocating for trains and trams, not trucks, buses, or cars. Trains and trams are more energy efficient than automobiles.
> also on team 'lets not have the government continue to give money to automotive companies to develop hydrogen technology'
But you presumably still want government handouts for BEV and EV charger development.