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Charming? His vocal fry is unbearable to listen to. Worse than nails on a chalkboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTJZpO3bTpg

TSMC management thought he was an absolute clown when he asked for $7 Trillion. They call him "Podcasting Bro".

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsmc-rejects-podcasting-bro-s...

He turned OpenAI into ClosedAI. He is a lying greedy sociopath.

It's possible (or at least I hope) he will fade into irrelevancy within the next few years, replaced with a less delusional and less insufferable CEO.



I never met the guy. I was just trying to explain the adulation... He was doing very well even before ChatGPT.


> He turned OpenAI into ClosedAI. He is a lying greedy sociopath.

And Steve Jobs shut down OpenDoc, doesn't mean he wasn't charming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o


Steve Jobs did not sound like a caricature of a gay man or a valley girl (no vocal fry, very charismatic speaker) and was never laughed out of the room in negotiations (one of the strongest negotiators the world has ever seen).

Steve Jobs was charismatic. Sam Altman is the opposite of charismatic.


My point was just anything he did with open source is orthogonal to charima, even if you also think he isn't charismatic; I havent gotten any charasmatic vibes off him though he does seem to have an intense stare at interviewers that doesnt really come off as charasmatic but maybe kind of Elizabeth Holmes-y and she obviously was very convincing to people and effective at manipulation. To me Holmes didn't seem charismatic either but there was definitely something that convinced other people.


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"Steve Jobs did not sound like a caricature of a gay man"


Yes, Steve Jobs did not sound like a caricature of that voice.

https://youtu.be/H5Tv4V9uxDo?t=46

That's how it is in the real world. I think you are the homophobic one here.

Some gay men sound like that, but not all.

The current CEO of Apple is gay but doesn't have that voice. He speaks clearly. Easy to listen to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7bpYaxgC5o


Some people around here think Elon Musk is good at public speaking. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the opinions of nerds on topics like charisma.




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