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The Telegram drop off for doing something really bad recently? I have not seen a single person mention it as an alternative. I don't really use discord that much except for the few friends I have that are not on telegram. Actually all of my family and friends are on telegram, even my grandmother is on telegram. When playing games with friends we just do a group call in telegram. I don't even see it on this list though.


Isn’t Telegram at least plausibly a tool of Russian surveillance? My understanding was that its attempts to distance itself from the regime were laughable and only made the relationship more obvious.

I think that’s why it’s rarely mentioned.


I mean, discord is a tool of US surveillance and I’m a Lot more worried about that government doing something to me given Russia is ten thousand miles away


probably because it is classified as a "messaging app" and while it has a ton of features it still misses the "structure" of a discord alternative

i just wonder why TeamSpeak is not there


Ctrl+F "voice" only gives 1 result. You can tell the author doesn't use Discord for voice chat in games. So no Teamspeak or Mumble.




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